Though, through my own experience, I would personally use a full mail hauberk and remove the back plate while leaving on the breast plate, that would allow my back to act as a heat sink and cool my torso instead of it being completely encased. Under a plate harness there are couple of layers of fabric, under or often over Middle eastern armor there was more padding, padding which heated up the body just as a sheath of steel could. It would not be any more troublesome than Muslims wearing heavy padded lamellar or mail, as they did for centuries. Perhaps, though, Knights of Rhodes/Malta used plate armor yet they were in the middle of the Mediterranean.Ĭould a 1495's Gerdarme withstand the harsh Siria-Palestina climate, as King Charles of France was planning in his Crusades? The hot climate could explain why Western Plate was more popular in Serbia, although not so much in Anatolia and South of The Balkans (Epirus and Nicea Empire)? To state it was only surpassed by plate in the 15th century is ludicrous though, as Europeans had coats of plates already in the 1250s which were most probably superior to any form of lamellar construction on Earth. So, we could that Klivanion was only (if ever) surpassed by European Plate Cuirass from 1415-1420's?īut there is little information on it and basically no tests done that I know of. Same for The Klivanion, byzantine lamellar armour: Timothy Dawson Said these lamellar were far superior to Western Maile Armour because of its construction (and Wikipedia says that some Modern testing discovered deflecting properties). Posted: Sun 29 May, 2016 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Constantine XI's Statue and Late Byzantine Armour Could a 1495's Gerdarme withstand the harsh Siria-Palestina climate, as King Charles of France was planning in his Crusades? The hot climate could explain why Western Plate was more popular in Serbia, although not so much in Anatolia and South of The Balkans (Epirus and Nicea/Ottoman Empire)?. So, we could that Klivanion was only (if ever) surpassed by European Plate Cuirass from 1415-1420's? Same for The Klivanion, byzantine lamellar armour: Timothy Dawson said these lamellar were far superior to comtemporary armour (like western Maile) because of its construction (and Wikipedia says that some Modern testing discovered deflecting propertieson it). Still, they seen to have continued in Byzantium until its ultimate Fall. I mean, they dissapeared in many parts of Europe already in 10th. Still, I have some doubts about if it was actually usefull for The byzantines wear so much scale armour as it is seen in 14th art. How acurated the statue's armour is? Seens it was well researched, after all. From a private UK collection, formed 1963-2015 accompanied by an archaeological report by military specialist Dr Raffaele DÂ’Amato this lot has been checked against the Interpol Database of stolen works of art and is accompanied by AIAD certificate number no.10200-167710.Posted: Sun 29 May, 2016 6:23 pm Post subject: Constantine XI's Statue and Late Byzantine ArmourĪs some of you might know, today (May 29) was The day when Byzantium has fallen. ‘? (?) (On the problem of highlighting the Byzantine combat headgear - a group of helmets like example)Â’ in ?, ? n.5, Moscow, 2019, pp. tom 8, pp.253-269, pp.266-267, fig.8 DÂ’Amato, R., ‘The betrayal: military iconography and archaeology in the Byzantine paintings of the 11th-15th century AD representing the Arrest of Our LordÂ’ in Weapons bring peace? Warfare in medieval and early modern Europe, Wroclaw, 2012, pp.69-96, p.84, fig.27 DÂ’Amato, R., Byzantine Naval Forces, 1261-1461 AD, Oxford, 2016, pp.35,46 ?.?. ‘? (Helmets of the Golden Horde warriors of the North Caucasus from private collections)Â’ in ?./?. See DÂ’Amato, R., ‘Old and new evidence on East-Roman helmets from the 9th to the 12th centuries,Â’ in Acta Militaria Medievalia, 2015, XI, pp. An iron helmet of domed form with conical apex and four bands with trefoil terminals the dome is forged in four pieces with applied ridged bands creating a four-section appearance the four iron strips crossing on the top are nailed to the bowl sections, each with five or six rivets, and to the conical apex with four iron rivets, continuing on sides and back around the lower edge of the bowl with a broader band, with carinated upper edge the front band ending in an expanded bi-lobate plaque, forming the nose-guard and reinforcing the structure the nose-guard shows arched extension above the eyes and is rivetted to the front with four domed nails an aventail of ring mail armour composed of rings of circa 1cm in diameter surrounding.
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